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For the last 2 weeks, they've been saying new contracts for all engines and avionics will be going out "next week". I would imagine that once they finalize power plant and avionics kit prices, they will update the order form, and you should be able to place new orders. I'm still hoping for the new contract / new order price emails to go out this week.
Not if you're building ELSA - it has to be built exclusively from Van's kits. If you want to build EAB, you can do what you want as long as it will pass its airworthiness inspection. However, the Van's "Power Plant Kit" contains a lot more than just the engine including the propeller, engine mount, engine wiring harness, exhaust system, cooling system and everything else forward of the firewall. The same limitation applies for the avionics. Ultimately, I believe Van's has to issue some sort of ELSA compliance certificate, and they will only issue it to builders who have purchased all 6 kits from them.
As Brad said, there is some parts included in the powerplant and avionics kits that you can only get thru Van's if you want to build the 12 as designed. The exhaust and cooling system are custom Van's designs. The electronic control and junction boards are custom Van's designs.
Unfortunately, as others have stated, if you are building an E-LSA you must go throught vans and get everything through them. EAB builders wont be subject to the paperwork limitations of E-LSA, but might run into parts issues. When we get an order to make the wiring harness for E-LSA customers Van's sends us several large boxes of parts. These are all part of that package but most of it is not used directly for the avionics wiring. I don't know everything that is contained in these kits either since Van's inventories them and sends us a seperate box with the pieces we need for the wiring. I know there are parts, such as antennas, that would be easy to get elsewhere, but there are also parts like the X3 connecor that come with your engine that they send to us for use in your wiring. Things like that may be harder to get elsewhere.
For what it's worth, I believe it was stated on the Creditors Meeting call that all customers with engine and avionics orders will have 30 days after being notified of their new contract terms to either accept the new terms or file a claim. Therefore, the Feb 12th deadline will not apply to file a claim. I haven't seen this in writing from Vans, but I'm pretty sure the statement was made by either Clyde Hamstreet (Chief Restructuring Officer) and/or Vans attorney.
I heard that too but yet to see a court document listing such. Hamstreet or the lawyer was under oath when they made that claim but I want it in an official court document. Regardless, if we dont see engine contracts this week, I’m filing my claim. I will amend/cancel if necessary if the notice is sent out before the 12th. They’re starting to get too close to comfort.
Thats $43,152.68 in today's dollars.. or a $3500 increase above inflation.. 3.5 aeronautical units.. all adds up.
Got the link sometime in middle of the night. 12is powerplant with 3 blade prop and Rotax Care increase was $3103. Thats 6.4% more but only 2.2% over inflation from day of my first kit order, acceptable in my mind. Got to have an engine and as being built E-LSA has to have Vans seal of approval. Value of finished plane currently still greater than kit costs and I am still having fun building which is the point for me.
