For those of you that have built either the tilt up or slider canopy on the 7, which is easier and could you list the advantages/disadvantages.
Thanks,
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer,
The heat and confinement of bubble canopy,
Or to stick arms out of a slider canopy,
Also, don't under estimate the ability to access your instruments, avionics, wiring, switches, breakers, etc, from the back of the panel without crawling under the panel and working on your back!
Matt,
I couldn't agree more. Did anyone you know seem to think that the slider was easier or more labor intensive to build. BTW what part of town you in. Im down under in League city.
Gent's,
Thank's for weighing in. It looks like there's a ride in each in my future.
To me being able to turn my head and have incredible, unobstructed visibility is worth the less-than-slider ventilation on the ground. Yeah, the roll bar on the slider is rather small, but you still have to put that fiberglass fairing around it as well as the structural support that runs down the center of the windscreen. Now, I'm not saying that the slider is dangerous or anything like that, but I think that in terms of VFR traffic spotting the tip-up certainly has an advantage. No head craning required. I built the airplane to optimize the flight experience, not the taxi experience.
One advantage I would give to the slider canopy is that your radios aren't in danger of getting wet when it rains. I am having a heck of a time trying to get the forward edge of my tipper to seal well. At annual time next month the canopy is coming off so I can resolve the sealing issue once and for all.
+1
We have a winner! Flying in them isn't much different, working on the avionics after it is built is like day & night.
+1
We have a winner! Flying in them isn't much different, working on the avionics after it is built is like day & night.
Jamie,...One advantage I would give to the slider canopy is that your radios aren't in danger of getting wet when it rains. I am having a heck of a time trying to get the forward edge of my tipper to seal well. At annual time next month the canopy is coming off so I can resolve the sealing issue once and for all.
I do sliders because:
I believe the front roll bar is stronger and better located to save your neck in a nose over.
John,...I believe the front roll bar is stronger and better located to save your neck in a nose over...
That brings up an interesting question. Most controlled landing accidents in tailwheel A/C have an associated nose over. ..
Yes, the TU have a canopy release but the issue is geting out of the slider. Do a search on this topic and you will find the air loads keep the sliders from opening in flight.Ease of egress from a nose over is often mentioned as a benefit of the slider. Is there a difference in in-flight egress? The slider seems an obvious yes - is it possible to eject the tip-up canopy? (without it smacking you in the face on the way off).
Probably not a thought for most of us, but might be relevant to those considering aerobatics.
Again, do a search. You can do acro w/o a 'chute in any plane as long as you are the only one onboard. The number of seats has nothing to do with it.I'd have thought that anyone doing aeros would be wearing a parachute. (Isn't it a legal requirement for aero's in anything other than single place aircraft?).
If you're not wearing a 'chute, not much point in worrying about how you're going to eject the canopy
Yes, the TU have a canopy release but the issue is geting out of the slider. Do a search on this topic and you will find the air loads keep the sliders from opening in flight.
As for laying upside on the ground, ask some of the A drivers how they got out with the airplane laying on their broken sliders. You are not going to "open" either TU or slider if you are upside down w/ the plane laying on whats left.
Again, do a search. You can do acro w/o a 'chute in any plane as long as you are the only one onboard. The number of seats has nothing to do with it.
Oh, they break alright. I have never been in one upside down. Well, upside down while on the ground anyway.So for upside down egress it doesn't really matter which canopy you have? Do the canopies always break?
PS. Welcome to the forum.
As for sticking your arm outside, you can easily do that with the tip up. Just put an inch extension on the main latch in the middle which will hold it up higher on the roll bar.
Do you have some research that supports that Mark? Yes, it is a common conception that taildraggers can nose over, and they do...but I am not sure I believe that it happens in a majority of cases, but I'd love to see the statistics on it if they are out there!
Paul
I flew into lewiston idaho yesterday and it was 105 when I landed, man that's hot. Between me and the wife we took turns holding the tip up higher with our arm extended. We did just fine. But hot is hot. I still love my tip up. Would do it again.
My passenger's hat blew out of the plane when I was cross country taxiing to GAC at OSH last year. The hat was on top of all the gear in the baggage area of my 9A slider. It was never seen again.
I lost a chart Thursday this way!
Hans
Now that's some funny stuff right there!... If improved visibility be my overarching concern, I'd build a Breezy...