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Old 07-09-2008, 08:37 AM
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<<Go to http://www.assistaviation.com/builder_tips.htm to see a full description.>>

I've opened a new thread with a quote from another....topic change. Go ahead, check out the website. See "How it Works" and "Pricing".

I'm quite aware how many pro-builders are out there.....some of them are good friends. Most have the sense to run their business a lot like my uncle made moonshine.....quietly.

Sorry Bill, but I think you're way, way over the line. And please, save the "technically, it's legal" argument. The FAA is reviewing the legal aspect right now, which is why I believe your approach to be irresponsible and detrimental.....to ordinary homebuilders, other pro-builders, and to your customers.
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Old 07-09-2008, 08:48 AM
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After all the recent news with the FAA and this topic, I was kind of shocked when I looked at that website.
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:11 AM
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<<Go to http://www.assistaviation.com/builder_tips.htm to see a full description.>>

<SNIP>

And please, save the "technically, it's legal" argument. <SNIP>
How is it going to "technically" get an EAB certificate under 14 CFR 21.191(g)?
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Old 07-09-2008, 10:53 AM
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Wonder if the FAA has discovered VAF yet????

Posting something like the above is a pretty much ironclad admission of guilt, it would seem to me.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:16 AM
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After writing letters to the FAA pleading for grandfathered kits and a sensible approach to changes to the 51% rule in an effort to ensure that my 40k half finished kit plane didn't turn into 5k of scrap aluminum, stuff like this just makes me mad. Many of us have been geniunely nervous over the fate of homebuilding for the first half of this year, and why? Because people like this manipulating the situation to turn a few bucks while putting everyone else at risk.

Bill - I think this is your que to quietly disappear.
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Old 07-09-2008, 11:32 AM
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In what category are these aircraft going to be licensed? It sure doesn't look like education and entertainment to me.

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Old 07-09-2008, 11:39 AM
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I think this looks like a very short business venture... I would think the FAA will probably be showing face in a day or so and should for the good of all of us builders out there.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:55 PM
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Seems I saw something in the last year the FAA was going to consider the number of aircraft an individual has built, sold, built, sold, built sold as evidence against "educational".

We better police ourselves before big brother steps in.
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Old 07-09-2008, 12:57 PM
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If you have an questions or comments good or bad please feel free to send me an e-mail. You can also call me at the number on the contact page. That is my personal cell phone or if you are in the area stop by for a bottle of cold water and some friendly conversation.
perhaps we should send him a few emails, or give him a call... (not harassing, just informing)


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Lone Star Executive airport has over 20 RV's, many miscellaneous experimental aircraft, and EAA Chapter 302 based on the field.
i wonder how EAA 302 feels about this "business venture"?

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Old 07-09-2008, 01:05 PM
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I ordered the empennage kit for the RV 7 I am currently building shortly after the 7 first came out. I had just received the RV 6 builder manual when news of the RV 7 was released. The plastic around the manual had not even been broken when I called Van's and asked if I could exchange it for the RV 7 manual. They happily made that happen. When I received the empennage kit I was teary eyed from the joy of beginning a lifelong dream. However; I was a little over zealous in my prediction of how fast I would build my plane (as a lot of us are at first) and after three house moves I was able to continue the project.
is he not even done his own plane yet???

or is he done but just hasn't updated the site yet... if that's true i have a hard time believing this next quote:
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Originally Posted by ASSIST AVIATION
A minimum of 3 e-mails a week keeping you informed of progress.
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