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11-30-2007, 10:31 PM
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Bird Strike Countermeasure
Again, He said to me, "Prophecy to these bones, and say to them, 'O dry bones, hear the word of the Lord! Thus says the Lord God to these bones: "Surely I will cause breath to enter into you, and you shall live. I will put sinews on you and bring flesh upon you, cover you with skin and put breath in you; and you shall live. Then you shall know that I am the Lord."'"
Ezekiel 37:5-6
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11-30-2007, 10:37 PM
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I've seen them split half and half, like Danny Kings "Beautiful Doll" and on WWII birds, but never 1/3 2/3 as you describe. Very interesting Would 1/2 & 1/2 work the same? or only 1/3 2/3? 
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11-30-2007, 10:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVAddict
I've seen them split half and half, like Danny Kings "Beautiful Doll" and on WWII birds, but never 1/3 2/3 as you describe. Very interesting Would 1/2 & 1/2 work the same? or only 1/3 2/3? 
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Perhaps an optimum ratio would exist for a given RPM or RPM range. 
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12-01-2007, 05:20 AM
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watch out scott
youll have the tree huggers whining "your scarring the birds and now they have changed their migratory patterns. were gonna have to ask you to not fly over wetlands.." 
or some garbage like that.  it really wouldnt surprise me. i think i'll do it.  that paint looks really slick.
did anybody see future weapons?......and their talk of "filling the skys" with peerless planes.(unmaned)
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12-01-2007, 05:46 AM
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Perhaps an optimum ratio would exist for a given RPM or RPM range. 
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I'm thinking that the cruising prop RPM on the Messerschmidt is around 1000-1200 RPMs, or about one-half engine RPMs. All depends on keeping the prop tips sub-sonic. Not sure how you would have to paint the spinner on higher RPM props to achieve the strobe effect visible to birds. It's an interesting theory I wish I could use on the T-28.
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12-01-2007, 06:08 AM
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I don't want to steal this thread but want to point out some things about the first picture.
Did anyone else notice the modified hangar wall for the prop? Very interesting.
The plane in the photo is (probably) not a true Messerschmidt BF-109. Since the exhaust is mounted high on the cowling, it has a Rolls Royce Merlin engine (the BF-109 had an inverted V-12 and the exhaust was low on the cowl) and is most likely a post-war CASA, Spanish built under license.
Karl
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12-01-2007, 07:45 AM
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Battle of Britain movie
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Originally Posted by RV8N
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The plane in the photo is (probably) not a true Messerschmidt BF-109. Since the exhaust is mounted high on the cowling, it has a Rolls Royce Merlin engine (the BF-109 had an inverted V-12 and the exhaust was low on the cowl) and is most likely a post-war CASA, Spanish built under license.
Karl
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...and the plane probably was a star in the "Battle of Britain" 1969 movie....
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0064072/
gil A - one of my favorite flying movies
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12-01-2007, 08:41 AM
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What about strobes?
Is there any evidence that strobes themselves deter birds? Do the tip-mounted strobes do any good? What about the wig-wag lights?
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12-01-2007, 02:33 PM
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This is really interesting - is there any research documentation / details around the web on this.
Seems too 'simple' to not be widely know about. I'm keen - but would like to see some supporting evidence.
Carl
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12-02-2007, 04:32 AM
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YOU!
You, CaptainRon, are HILARIOUS!! That made my day!
greg 
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