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12-19-2016, 01:24 PM
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12-19-2016, 05:10 PM
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Its Drawing Number 11 for early RV-8QB
The early RV-8QB plan sets do not have a drawing 64. The Center Spar section is in Drawing 11. I only have the preview drawings with me at home but there is no reference to these bolts in that drawing dated 1996. I will check my full plan set next time I am at the airport to verify.
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12-19-2016, 06:34 PM
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Read the SB and saw the reference to difficulty to access with wings installed.
I am not near my fuselage or plans but can I assume on a canoe with no wings attached yet that the inspection and installation of the missing hardware while possibly aggravating would be possible without opening holes in the skin or upper flange?
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12-19-2016, 07:40 PM
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These Missing Bolts
were the subject of another post of mine, addressed by the Mothership about three weeks ago. I think these bolt holes were left open in case the center section was going to be used as a nose dragger, and can easily be overlooked when building a tail dragger.
If the wings are not installed it is relatively easy to use thin plywood, about the width of a yardstick, as a nut holding jig to start the nuts, with access through the wing root area. Use a little drop of superglue to hold the washer to the nut.... once started, revert to the use of a wrench to finish the torque sequence. Took all of 30 minutes. The holes in the upper cap, as shown in the service bulletin, are probably a better solution in the case of an aircraft with wings mounted and wires installed.
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12-19-2016, 10:29 PM
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Ok, that is kind of what I was thinking it might be but not being near the project to look at it I wasn't sure.
When I got my QB fuselage I started at the beginning of the SB instructions and surveyed what had been done or not step by step over a couple days and I thought I had done a decent job but I guess I missed that because I sure don't remember looking for a dozen bolts in the spar. Makes me want to go back and do it all again to see what else I missed.
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12-20-2016, 12:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xblueh2o
Read the SB and saw the reference to difficulty to access with wings installed.
I am not near my fuselage or plans but can I assume on a canoe with no wings attached yet that the inspection and installation of the missing hardware while possibly aggravating would be possible without opening holes in the skin or upper flange?
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Yes, particularly if the control column is not yet installed so that you have full access through the pass through hole.
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12-20-2016, 11:53 AM
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That is even better news. I had the control system totally fit up and installed but I have recently removed all of it in preparation of painting the interior.
Thanks Scott.
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12-20-2016, 03:29 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rvbuilder2002
Yes, particularly if the control column is not yet installed so that you have full access through the pass through hole.
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Going though the center or from the sides is about equally difficult. I built a tool by duct taping a wrench on a 2' stick to hold the nut in place. A piece of duct tape on the back of the wrench keeps the nut in place. Getting the washer on was a little more difficult, but I used long forceps. All this while the control column was installed.
Even with wings on, I think this could be done without resorting to cutting holes, but I'm glad I didn't have to do that.
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12-20-2016, 04:27 PM
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JB Weld
I had to remove the gear mounts for my RV-8A, issues with the QB installation.
I made a long reach wrench by taking some square small steel tube and a cutoff box end wrench, i used JB weld and it is a permanent and strong junction. I could reach in from the wing side all the way past the middle.
Just and idea, cheap wrench from Harbor Freight.
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12-20-2016, 05:17 PM
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For this SB, is there a serial number range or perhaps a a kit "vintage" date? I checked my -8QB this morning, bolts were factory installed. Which is good I guess... 2004 QB fuselage, been flying for 10 years.
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