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Old 11-18-2019, 04:37 PM
noelf noelf is offline
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I have the same problem. While building my RV, everything was in the basement shop, including the aircraft. When I moved the airframe to the hangar 50 minutes away, I slowly ended up purchasing duplicate tools from a hardware store that was closer to the hangar vs a round trip back home. I didn't like it, but it was more cost effective than a round trip to the home shop.

Now, the RV is in a hangar only 35 minutes from the house, but I have a second aircraft in Maryland which is 5 hours away. Guess what??? I now have three sets of tools: home shop, local hangar, and now the hangar in MD.

I do not have an economical solution to the OPs question.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:13 PM
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Make friends with others at the airport that will allow you to borrow a tool now and again. Do not abuse this relationship and make sure you return the tool IMMEDIATELY after you are done using it.
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Old 11-18-2019, 05:13 PM
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When we finished our bush plane, it was at an airpark 25 miles away, and we commuted several times a week to work on it by RV. I ended up stranding a number of duplicate tools down there, and for the unique stuff for which I only had one copy, I had a tool bag that went back and forth with me.

I generally had a work plan for the next session when I left the project, so that I knew what I had to bring along on the subsequent visit. This worked out about 95% of the time, and we almost never wasted a session because of not having the right tool. It’s all in the planning.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:29 PM
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It will pass. Simply because you will do something about the problem. You need the right tools in the right place. For most folks it probably means buying some duplicates.

The tools I have in the hangar are much more maintenance related and are the smaller subset (still more than a double stacked rollaround) of the home set. The tools at home are more fabrication related and way wider range. Conversely, I have more aviation hardware and parts at the hangar vs less at home.
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Old 11-18-2019, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by plehrke View Post
Make friends with others at the airport that will allow you to borrow a tool now and again. Do not abuse this relationship and make sure you return the tool IMMEDIATELY after you are done using it.
I keep trying to give my friend his engine stand back. He says that's ok, to just hang onto it. I think he likes the free storage and extra floor space in his jam packed hangar (1 of 3).
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Old 11-18-2019, 11:19 PM
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A little off topic but I found a real good way to store my commonly used hand tools and wrenches etc. The magnetic tool holders from Harbor freight work well. I put them up high, on a frame over my workbench so they are easy visible and reachable. An 8' length of those things hold a lot of tools. Amazing how much time aggregates in looking for specific tools in drawers or boxes and then putting them back. Now I just grab it, use it, then stick it back up. Maybe not the same place but just as easy to find next time. A duplicate but smaller setup is on my rolling cart toolbox at the hangar.
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Old 11-19-2019, 03:35 AM
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Just dealing with this myself now. When the empennage went to the hangar, it stopped being a storage space and became a workshop, so the additional setup began. Made a cheap workbench out of a flat solid-core door, added lighting, bought a cheap compressor and brought some cheap tools from the house. Once the fuselage and wings make it to the hangar, I'll bring the C-table with all the metalworking tools over and either invest in more tools or bring the rolling chest to the hangar. It will be awhile before I have to worry about that, but I am enjoying the beginning stages of hangar transformation.
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Old 03-01-2020, 03:54 AM
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Default Where do you need tools? Kind of a poll

I created a little google sheet that we can all edit to log where we should put our tools. Feel free to add your tools to the list, and increment the counter on the physical location you believe we should have the tools.

Just increase the number in the cell if you have your tool there. I think it might be interesting to see which tools others have found useful in which location.
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Old 03-13-2020, 08:34 PM
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I found a great way to build an airplane without any tools. I happened into a great situation at our local airport. I helped an older gentleman finish a rv 6 which I had to fly the initial 25 hours off. Free fuel.
When I expressed a desire to build my own the hangar owner said build it here. No rent and a shop with lathes milling machine and all the tools you could ever need and more. Just make sure the tools are put away when you are done.(I do keep the keg replenished as I live beside a craft brewery) it also comes with advice as a few senior aviators and builders visit most evenings. The owner has never built an airplane but just likes to see planes built and is able to afford it and is very generous and a promoter of aviation.

It?s always better to be lucky than good. Finished my rv9a and looking at my next project.

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Old 04-11-2020, 08:45 AM
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I bought some utility boxes (commonly used for holding fishing lures etc) that have adjustable sizes to store my supply of cotter pins, nuts, bolts, etc. that I bring back and forth from the workshop to the hangar depending on what I am working on. Nothing worse than making the drive to the hangar only to find out you ordered the wrong nut or do not have the correct cotter pins. I solved this by buying at least 10 of most sizes and keeping them well organized in the boxes. I also purchased a rolling toolbox from HF that has 5 drawers which I filled with a duplicate safety wire/screw drivers/wrench/socket sets etc that live at the hangar. The wrench set came in foam cutouts to hold them in place so no searching for the correct wrench. The key is to keep the drawers one layer deep so you can see everything in the drawer without digging and put a label on the outside of each drawer so there is no wasted effort opening this drawer then that drawer looking for a specific tool. I use 2 gallon buckets to load up with much less commonly used items to tote back and forth between workshop/hangar. If somehow I forget to bring something from the workshop to the hangar I just buy it from Home Depot (5 minute drive from the hangar) vs burning the fuel and more importantly time to go to the shop and pick it up. The last method I employ is to keep groups of tools that are used together in small portable tool boxes that (1) keeps them organized internally, (2) makes them easy to move between work locations. Example: Aviation Electrical box - I keep all my crimpers, shrink wrap, spools of small gauge wire, and similar items in it. When I grab that box I know I have everything I need for that type of work. Beyond that there is a third set of tools that live in the plane and never leave it baggage area. Enough stuff to take the wheels and wheel pants, and cowl off.
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