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Old 01-16-2020, 03:37 PM
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I understand a F1 Rocket recently suffered a structural failure in GA. Pilot was able to land safely. Does anyone have details? I would be very interested in the altitude and airspeed where the horizontal stab failed. Rumor is it was a VNE overspeed. I have pics but zero luck posting on here. Damage is impressive. Edit:Link posted
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:31 PM
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Holy smokes! That makes me pucker, and not in a good way! Glad they got it on the ground safely.
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Old 01-16-2020, 05:44 PM
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wow----just wow.

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Old 01-16-2020, 05:46 PM
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wow....what a great job of getting that airplane back on the ground.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:19 PM
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/25022684@N08/r3wpF4

I understand a F1 Rocket recently suffered a structural failure in GA. Pilot was able to land safely. Does anyone have details? I would be very interested in the altitude and airspeed where the horizontal stab failed. Rumor is it was a VNE overspeed. I have pics but zero luck posting on here. Damage is impressive. Edit:Link posted
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We know about the incident and are actively investigating it. We're not going to speculate until we get the flight data recovered and have done a thorough inspection on the damage.

The a/c involved was built in the early 2000's and first flew around 2010.

For the moment, we can say that what is known is that a relatively new Rocket pilot and passenger were very fortunate to get back on the ground safely. Some acro was involved and it may be an overspeed event. Or it may have hit a UFO. The point is, we don't know yet.

I would ask that everyone resist the urge to speculate. Speculation is not data. Without hard data, which we are working to obtain, it is all too easy to make statements that simply aren't true.

I will take this opportunity to say again, as I did in the recent RV-6 thread, VNe and Va are not suggestions. It is critical to understand the limitations of these sheet metal designs. While they are capable of aerobatics, they are NOT designed to be unlimited acro machines and they can bite you if you don't respect their limits.

More later.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:19 PM
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No doubt he had his guardian angel watching over him!
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:23 PM
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BTW, the EFIS screenshot that Sailvi767 has posted next to the damaged F1 has NOTHING to do with that aircraft.
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Old 01-16-2020, 06:33 PM
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I did not realize the efis shot was included. It is as posted not from the incident aircraft. I would be very interested if the incident aircraft has the ability to retrieve the info on the state of the aircraft when the failure occurred. The why it occurred is of course important but in this case I am looking for the state of the aircraft when it happened. The why part can wait until a through investigation is done.
I think it’s great that you are actively involved in researching this and appreciate the time and effort it will take.
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Old 01-16-2020, 07:01 PM
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https://www.flickr.com/gp/25022684@N08/r3wpF4

I understand a F1 Rocket recently suffered a structural failure in GA. Pilot was able to land safely. Does anyone have details? I would be very interested in the altitude and airspeed where the horizontal stab failed. Rumor is it was a VNE overspeed. I have pics but zero luck posting on here. Damage is impressive. Edit:Link posted
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Photo date on Flicker was 7 January, 2020 - a week ago. Are the black spots/blotches an N-number cover up? I'm in sort-of disbelief that the plane flew in that condition. Miraculous if it did.
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Old 01-16-2020, 10:41 PM
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I'm not sure the new tailfeather angle will catch on... At least, not without afterburners.

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