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Auto Alternators

Kitplane article:

Rewiring a Nippondenso Alternator

https://www.kitplanes.com/rewiring-a-nippondenso-alternator/

https://www.kitplanes.com/alternator-mods-without-major-surgery/

After reading these articles, I'm not a fan of either option. Is there a 50+amp auto alternator that I can get at the local auto parts supply that is single wire (no internal voltage regulator)? I'd need a part number or a make/model/year. I have a Duralast 14824, but it has the round 3 pin internal voltage regulator.

JC

I use the 14158. It is an ND alt set up for external regulation. It is rated at 45 amps and set up for CCW rotation to match our engines. Have never needed more than 45 amps in either the 6 or the 10. Both are IFR birds with pitot heat. You can buy them for $30. The last one I got from Summit. It was a unit re-manufactured by ND themselves for $70.

Larry
 
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Allen,

Unfortunately I couldn't find an easy solution for the mounting. I already had too many projects so I decided to just go the B & C path.

This might be an area for a 3rd party fabricator to come up with a mounting bracket. I think there are many people that would like to take this path but might not have any way to weld up a bracket.
 
Hmmmm. that link didn't work. Got a part#?

Note- different ND alternator models come with a variety of lug mount configurations, so you have to do some researching to find one that will work with available Lycoming type brackets.
 
Any ideas on what this is from? I ordered a 76 accord alt and the accord one is quite a bit bigger.

This is off a plane built in '92. using a B&C regulator
Thanks,
 

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Welcome to VAF

Gary, cant help with the alternator, but welcome aboard------most likely someone will know that unit.
 
Well, I decided to give it a shot after reading a few people say a 14684 would work.

I ordered a new Duralast 14684N from AutoZone. $160 including the $40 core fee.

I ordered the B&C bracket kit which looks to fit with 1 washer addition and matches the bracket that comes with the Van's PP alternator kit. Though I don't have an engine to attach it to yet, so can't confirm if the whole set up worked.

I also ordered a 3 wire plug from Ebay to fit the alternator for $7.
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I'll try to remember to take some pics and confirm it fits the IO-360 when I'm installed (next month, the month after??)
 
Any ideas on what this is from? I ordered a 76 accord alt and the accord one is quite a bit bigger.

This is off a plane built in '92. using a B&C regulator
Thanks,

That is probably a 14184, 1977 Honda CVCC, no air, that was sold many years by Vans. I've been running it on my RV-6 since 1999. A 1975 Ford LTD regulator works very nicely with this 35a alternator. It can be used with or without the fan--a blast tube to the diodes at the rear of the alternator is not a bad idea.

https://www.amazon.com/Quality-Built-14184-Premium-Quality-Alternator/dp/B000CK2XLC

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Gary (Post #156) looks like your alternator is the lite weight unit sold by Mark Landoll in the 90’s into the early 2000’s. That is what I installed on my RV6 in 1995 and it lasted 24 years. I had to replace it last December 2019. Here is what it looked like when removed.

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Looks just like your pictures. I replaced it with this:

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I reused the original pulley as it was the correct diameter for use with the Gates 7355 belt. I did not use the cooling fan that came with the new alternator because I have cooling blast tubes like Sam mentioned.
 
That is probably a 14184, 1977 Honda CVCC

I ordered the equivalent to this and it was quite a big bigger overall. but thank you.





Gary (Post #156) looks like your alternator is the lite weight unit sold by Mark Landoll in the 90’s into the early 2000’s. That is what I installed on my RV6 in 1995 and it lasted 24 years. I had to replace it last December 2019. Here is what it looked like when removed.

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Looks just like your pictures. I replaced it with this:

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I reused the original pulley as it was the correct diameter for use with the Gates 7355 belt. I did not use the cooling fan that came with the new alternator because I have cooling blast tubes like Sam mentioned.

Wow! your original must be the same part! Thank you! Any idea what the new unit weighs? I have no scat tubes to the alt, but I could add some. Any pics of that setup?
 
Gary, the cooling blast tube is not scat tubing. You can see it in the picture below. 1” O.D. Gets cool air off of the front baffle. Blow cool air into the back of the alternator. Original alternator did not have a fan, and I removed the fan from the new alternator when changing the pulley.

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I ordered the equivalent to this and it was quite a big bigger overall. but thank you.

You didn't order a 14184 for the Honda Civic CVCC....the Accord alternator is not the same.

Your alternator is a 14184, it was the standard back in the 90's, Vans sold a bunch of them.

Here is the blast tube on my alternator (14184):

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Caution on installing some Accura/Honda alternators, they are not all alike - some year applications of Hondas have 0 to 5 volt inputs to the connector pin we know as 'I' (indicator), they use this to step down amperage output when car is idling. If you apply 12 volts as suggested in most generic alternator wiring drawings to this pin (as is used with Plane Power wiring instructions), the alternator will roast itself in about 5 minutes. So, if you are hunting for something different than what others here have had success installing - consult a good year/model specific car repair manual to see that your choice is compatible with your plane wiring schematic.
 
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an alternator for a 1995 Dodge half ton van
This is what I ended up going with. Took fabricating some bushings to fit it to the airplane, and carefully boring out the pulley I found for it, but it's there. Now I just have to figure out the field terminals... I think it's one to the regulator and one to ground.
 
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